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Shoulders: to 18"
After extensive research on what information is out there I believe this to be the "It's not True" gown from the second collection that Gilbert Adrian produced in his atelier in 1942 after opening it earlier that year
Hips: 21î flat across from side seam to side seam of the lining
The braided piping detail that runs around the waist and adds to the illusion of a nipped in waistline is utterly fantastic
1980s Dramatic Vicky Tiel Couture Dot Top mao-hide Shoulders: to 18"The sleeves on this dramatic piece by Vicky Tiel are jaw dropping. They are extravagant and grand and create a bold silhouette. Made of folded dot fabric that has stiffening in behind it in the form of net they will defy gravity and hold that shape when on. To balance those bold shoulders the waist nips in sharply and that is further accentuated by the seaming. The hips flare ou from there even more then the photos portray if you lay the top flat and